In this episode of the Ministry Forum Podcast, John talks with the Reverend Bill Lord, a seasoned ministry leader with decades of experience in Christian education and pastoral care. Bill shares his journey from being a local pastor to becoming a leader in lifelong learning and continuing education for ministry.

The conversation focuses on the importance of listening, creating safe spaces for growth, and the shift in ministry education—from relying on experts to fostering practical learning and reflection. Bill offers insights on the value of asking reflective questions, learning from others, and staying curious about where God is leading.

John Borthwick chats with theologian, storyteller, and children’s book author Laura Alary about her creative journey and unique approach to ministry. From her early days as a student at Knox College to her current role as Library Assistant and Coordinator of the Mackay Educational Resource Center, Laura shares how she combined her love of theology, storytelling, and childlike wonder to become a celebrated picture book author.