Inter-Mission Experiences: A Panel Discussion
Rev. John Borthwick is joined by ministry leaders Gale Macdonald, Meg Patterson, Matthew Brough, and Matthew Sams to discuss their personal experiences with the Presbyterian Church in Canada’s Intermission policy—a 10-week paid leave available every five years for rest and renewal.
Each guest shares how they discovered the policy, what motivated them to take it, how they prepared, and what they experienced during their time away. They reflect on challenges such as feeling guilty, setting boundaries with their congregations, and overcoming the initial difficulty of truly resting. Despite diverse ministry contexts, all found the intermission deeply rejuvenating and ultimately beneficial not just for themselves, but also for their congregations.
Message from Intercultural Liaison Rev. Dr. Pablo Kim Sun
This episode of the Ministry Forum Podcast features a special recast of a sermon by Rev. Dr. Pablo Kim Sun, the Intercultural Liaison for the Presbyterian Church in Canada. His message, originally delivered during an ecumenical service at Knox College, explores mutual engagement and epistemological humility in an ecumenical context.
Pablo shares his personal journey across various denominations—including Presbyterian, Baptist, Mennonite, Catholic, and Christian Reformed traditions—which shaped his perspective on Christian unity. He emphasizes the importance of approaching different theological traditions with openness and curiosity rather than defensiveness. Using the biblical story of Peter and Cornelius from Acts 10, he illustrates how God calls believers to humility, mutual transformation, and deeper relationships beyond denominational boundaries.
Interview with The Rev. Amanda Currie about the Canadian Council of Churches
In this episode of the Ministry Forum Podcast, Rev. John Borthwick sits down with Rev. Amanda Currie, former Moderator of the Presbyterian Church in Canada and current President of the Canadian Council of Churches. They explore the significance of ecumenism, the role of the CCC in fostering unity among diverse Christian traditions, and how churches can work together despite theological and historical differences. Amanda shares her personal journey of living out ecumenism daily, reflections on church unity, and insights into what the future of the Christian church might look like. Whether you're passionate about interchurch collaboration or just curious about how denominations navigate their differences, this episode offers a thoughtful and inspiring conversation.
Conversation with Recently Retired Ministers
In this episode of the Ministry Forum Podcast, Rev. John Borthwick sits down with three retired Presbyterian ministers—Rev. Scott Sinclair, Rev. Duncan Jeffrey, and Rev. Mark Gaskin—for a candid conversation about life in ministry and the transition into retirement. Recorded live at the Sumac Centre, they reflect on the joys and challenges of pastoral work, how ministry has evolved over the years, and what they’ve learned along the way. From worship planning to pastoral care (and even the art of a good church sandwich), this discussion is full of wisdom, humor, and honest insights. Whether you’re just starting out in ministry, nearing retirement, or somewhere in between, this episode offers encouragement and practical advice for the road ahead.
Interview with Theologian, Writer and Influencer Brian Recker
In this episode of the Ministry Forum Podcast, guest host Rachel Kennedy-Proctor sits down with Brian Recker and Rev. John Borthwick to discuss faith, deconstruction, and what it means to follow Jesus outside of traditional evangelical spaces. Brian shares his journey from being a pastor to rethinking his beliefs, navigating shifts in theology, and building a platform that fosters inclusive conversations about faith. Together, they explore the challenges of evolving spiritually, the future of the church, and the importance of authenticity in ministry. Whether you're questioning, reconstructing, or simply curious, this conversation offers thought-provoking insights and encouragement for your own faith journey.
Interview with The Rev. Dr. P.A. (Sandy) McDonald (former Moderator and perhaps longest serving minister in one congregation)
Rev. John Borthwick sits down with The Rev. Dr. P.A. Sandy MacDonald, a Knox College alumnus, former Moderator of the General Assembly of The Presbyterian Church in Canada, and a minister whose remarkable 56-year pastorate at St. Andrew’s Presbyterian Church in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, exemplifies a life of steadfast faith and service.
Sandy reflects on his rural upbringing near Stratford, Ontario, his early passion for church music as an organist, and his theological journey through Knox College. He candidly shares how his career unfolded, beginning with an Ordained Missionary appointment that he never left—a rare, lifelong commitment to one congregation.
Chat with ChatGPT about the Presbyterian Church in Canada
In this unique episode of the Ministry Forum Podcast, John Borthwick engages in a fascinating conversation with ChatGPT, an AI developed by OpenAI. Together, they explore key issues facing the Presbyterian Church in Canada, including membership decline, ministry leadership challenges, reconciliation efforts, and the future of the denomination. ChatGPT shares insights on adaptive leadership, clergy wellness, theological education, and how congregations can navigate a rapidly changing cultural and spiritual landscape. This thought-provoking discussion offers fresh perspectives on ministry in a post-Christendom era, blending humor, innovation, and a hopeful outlook.
Interview with Dr. Stuart Macdonald, Professor of Church and Society at Knox College on his book, Leaving Christianity
In this episode of the Ministry Forum Podcast, John Borthwick speaks with The Reverend Dr. Stuart Macdonald, professor of Church and Society at Knox College, about the changing landscape of Christianity in Canada. They discuss the historical trends that led to declining church membership, the challenges of ministry in a post-Christendom era, and the importance of fostering faith formation over cultural nostalgia. Dr. Macdonald shares insights from his books, Leaving Christianity and his upcoming Traditions and Tension, offering a critical yet hopeful perspective on how the church can adapt to cultural shifts with clarity, imagination, and a renewed focus on discipleship.
Re-”Casting” Dr. Brian Irwin’s Book, After Dispensationalism - Book Conversation and Convocation Book Launch
In this episode of the Ministry Forum Podcast, brings together highlights from a series of conversations with Dr. Irwin, including excerpts from his formal book launch and a lively discussion with Knox alumni, colleagues, and friends.
Dr. Irwin’s book takes a deep dive into dispensationalism, a theological framework that has shaped how many Christians interpret scripture and think about the end times. Whether you’re curious about dispensationalism, intrigued by the challenge of interpreting apocalyptic literature, or simply seeking encouragement in ministry, this episode is an engaging and thought-provoking listen.
Bonus: Two Rivers Church Podcast - “Strays, Orphans, and Exiles” Part 2
This is part two of John's conversation with Two Rivers Church, looking at how Ministry Forum is supporting church leaders, where the new leaders are coming from, and how the definition of what church is in the 21st century is changing.
Cross-Cast with Two Rivers Church Podcast - “Strays, Orphans, and Exiles”
In this special cross-posted episode, John joins the podcast Strays, Orphans, and Exiles from Two Rivers Church in Guelph. The conversation explores new and creative approaches to church in the 21st century, focusing on the use of online spaces, social media, and alternative models like home churches and virtual communities.
Interview with The Rev. Dr. Bill Lord, Retired Director of Continuing Education at Toronto School of Theology and Mentor
In this episode of the Ministry Forum Podcast, John talks with the Reverend Bill Lord, a seasoned ministry leader with decades of experience in Christian education and pastoral care. Bill shares his journey from being a local pastor to becoming a leader in lifelong learning and continuing education for ministry.
The conversation focuses on the importance of listening, creating safe spaces for growth, and the shift in ministry education—from relying on experts to fostering practical learning and reflection. Bill offers insights on the value of asking reflective questions, learning from others, and staying curious about where God is leading.
Interview with Dr. Laura Alary, Children’s Book Author & Knox College Staff Member
John Borthwick chats with theologian, storyteller, and children’s book author Laura Alary about her creative journey and unique approach to ministry. From her early days as a student at Knox College to her current role as Library Assistant and Coordinator of the Mackay Educational Resource Center, Laura shares how she combined her love of theology, storytelling, and childlike wonder to become a celebrated picture book author.
Season Two - Coming soon!
Hey, Ministry Forum audience, it's John popping into the studio for a quick update on our next season of the Ministry Forum Podcast.
Conversation with Rev. Scott McAndless
In this crosscast episode of the Ministry Forum Podcast, host Rev. John Borthwick welcomes Rev. W. Scott McAndless, minister and creator of the podcast Retelling the Bible. McAndless shares his unique approach to biblical storytelling, how his passion for narratives inspired the podcast, and the creative process behind his episodes. Scott shares insights into the power of storytelling to transform understanding of scripture, recounts meaningful connections he's made through podcasting, and reflects on the ways his ministry intersects with this passion project.
Interview with Sara Traficante, Ministry Forum Intern and MPS Student
In this episode, Ministry Forum Intern Sara Traficante shares her journey from a career in music to studying psychospiritual therapy at Knox College. Drawn to ministry through experiences in her church and a contemplative search for deeper meaning, Sara describes how the Master of Psychospiritual Studies (MPS) program allows her to integrate faith with therapeutic practices. She discusses her leadership roles in her church’s Indigenous justice and LGBTQ+ inclusion projects, which highlighted her passion for collaborative, inclusive ministry. At Knox, Sara has found a supportive and diverse learning environment that has helped her develop confidence, spiritual maturity, and a strong sense of call. Her story offers insights for those in ministry who seek to blend spiritual care with community and therapeutic support.
Interview with Pastor Kevin Coghill of Royal City Mission
In this episode, Pastor Kevin Coghill shares the story of Royal City Mission in Guelph, Ontario, a church reimagined as a mission to prioritize community service over conventional Sunday worship. Coghill explains how the mission operates seven days a week, providing meals and support for the city’s most vulnerable, guided by values of relationship, justice, and shared beauty. Leadership at Royal City Mission is collaborative and includes voices often overlooked, creating a welcoming space for those who feel marginalized. Despite challenges and occasional community pushback, Coghill emphasizes a posture of openness, where "saying yes" to needs fosters deep connection and understanding.
Interview with Rachel Kennedy, Ministry Forum Intern and MDiv Student
In this episode of the Ministry Forum Podcast, host Rev. John Borthwick chats with Rachel Kennedy, a Ministry Forum Intern and M.Div. student at Knox College. Rachel shares her journey into ministry, from her start as a French teacher to answering an unexpected yet compelling call to seminary. The conversation digs into Rachel’s passion for creating safe spaces for young people to explore faith authentically. She opens up about her experiences with different church cultures and how Knox has helped her find a theological home that values questioning and deep exploration. They also touch on how the church’s current challenges are an opportunity for renewal, inviting leaders to be more intentional and responsive to the real needs of their communities.
Inter-mission with Rev. John Borthwick
Rev. John Borthwick chats with Rev. Dr. Kristine O'Brien, the Executive Director of Crieff Hills Retreat Centre. Kristine reflects on her shift from congregational ministry to leading Crieff Hills, stressing how vital Sabbath rest and breaks (or "intermissions") are for avoiding burnout and sparking creativity in ministry. She talks about how taking intentional time for rest can refresh ministry leaders, helping them serve more effectively. Kristine also shares how Crieff Hills has evolved, now welcoming a variety of groups—from nonprofits to different faith traditions. The centre focuses on hospitality, spiritual renewal, and even innovative projects like ecological farming. This discussion highlights the importance of rest, creativity, and adaptability for healthy and thriving ministry.
Retreating with Rev. Dr. Kristine O’Brien
Rev. John Borthwick chats with Rev. Dr. Kristine O'Brien, the Executive Director of Crieff Hills Retreat Centre. Kristine reflects on her shift from congregational ministry to leading Crieff Hills, stressing how vital Sabbath rest and breaks (or "intermissions") are for avoiding burnout and sparking creativity in ministry. She talks about how taking intentional time for rest can refresh ministry leaders, helping them serve more effectively. Kristine also shares how Crieff Hills has evolved, now welcoming a variety of groups—from nonprofits to different faith traditions. The centre focuses on hospitality, spiritual renewal, and even innovative projects like ecological farming. This discussion highlights the importance of rest, creativity, and adaptability for healthy and thriving ministry.